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[supernewbie]

Делфи, компонент TClientSocket и TServerSocket.
Проблема примерно следующая:
Вписываю в TClientSocket ип = 127.0.0.1 - норм соединение, вписываю ип пппоешного подключения - ниможет, че делать?

ЗЫ роутер имеется, хз зачем сказал, но всё мб

[xkor]

supernewbie, а в TServerSocket на каком ip сервер регится? что бы со всех интерфейсов принимать подключения надо на 0.0.0.0 регать сервер. Ещё не локальные соединения может блокировать фаервол.

[supernewbie]

у сервера некуда ип вписывать там)
на компе один брандмауер и ему пох кажеца

[xkor]

у сервера некуда ип вписывать там)то есть как некуда, а свойство host ему тогда зачем?

[supernewbie]

но оно у TClientSocket

[xkor]

у TServerSocket тоже должно быть ибо без адреса он тоже работать не может

[supernewbie]

че-то не видно :(

[alexteam]

ЗЫ роутер имеется, хз зачем сказал, но всё мб
ппое на роутере ? - прокинь порт на свою машину, либо включи ее в DMZ
.

[supernewbie]

ппое на роутере ?
да

- прокинь порт на свою машину, либо включи ее в DMZ
я так ниумею))

ладно, пойду поищу похожие слова в настройках роутера..

[xkor]

supernewbie, бля, конектиться надо к ip компа а не роутера...

[supernewbie]

как узнать ип компа тогда?

[xkor]

supernewbie, в консоле ipconfig, или смотреть инфу о сетевом соединении

[SeregaZ]

запущенный случай :)

кстати! это современная проблема, когда специалисты крайне узконаправленные. знаю одного, который вроде разбирается в программмировании - создании скриптов для л2пх, но зато не умеет порезать жесткий диск на части, и тем самым избежать бана по железу :)

или вот другой - приежают в офис к бухгалтерам горе программисты 1С, на своих флешках привозят трояна. их вызывали, чтобы они там какую-то графу настроили, а они своей флешкой убивают запуск 1С на всех компьютерах. уезжают так и не починив, еще и поломав вообще работу 1С. тут мы мимо их офиса проезжаем, и заглядываем в гости на чаепитие. в течении 5 минут был поставлен диагноз, через 6 минут вылечены все компьютеры и 1С опять заработала. чем эти парни занимались пол дня не понятно... но факт есть факт, спецы крайне узколобые :) небольшое отклонение от их проффесиональной темы, и они сосут чупачупс.

[Morfik]

сокеты быстрее пайпов?

[xkor]

приежают в офис к бухгалтерам горе программисты 1Смногие 1С программистов и за программистов то не считают)

[supernewbie]

судя по этому у меня нет ипа)

[TrUnK]

судя по этому у меня нет ипа)

192.168.1.168 IP твоего компьютера в локальной сети.

[supernewbie]

ну ясен хрен, а с компа не из локальной сети то как ко мне подключится?

[Rash]

какого года у тебя винда?)))

[supernewbie]

xp 64)
видимо 2003

[FrostGG]

192.168.1.1/192.168.0.1 и ищи в вебинтерфейсе роутера свой IP либо http://internet.yandex.ru/ , если что то не так понял просьба не ругать

[Morfik]

ну ясен хрен, а с компа не из локальной сети то как ко мне подключится?

твой комп за роутером (в NATе) и ты хош к нему подсоединится из внешней сети? скажем с работы и т.д.

[xkor]

ну ясен хрен, а с компа не из локальной сети то как ко мне подключится?пробросить порты для нужных серверов или включить DMZ на роутере если провайдер выдаёт выделенный (не обязательно фиксированный) IP, если же внешний IP общий с другими клиентами провайдера то никак)

[supernewbie]

дом.ру, вроде выделеный, динамический, дмз буду искать щас)

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твой комп за роутером (в NATе) и ты хош к нему подсоединится из внешней сети? скажем с работы и т.д.
не знаю никакого NATа, но суть ты изложил верно

[supernewbie]

я двигаюсь в нужном направлении кажись

[xkor]

supernewbie, да, на втором скрине укажи IP своего компа в локальной сети, и чтоб он не сменился, в настройках DHCP сервера роутера на всякий случай лучше сделать чтоб он выдавался компу всегда.

[supernewbie]

о, робит)

[aspartic]

на правах ОФФ-Топа
http://www.dyndns.org - может тоже кому-то понадобиться. Связывает ваше придуманное доменное имя(например: www.aspartic.dyndns.org <= не существует ;) ) с постоянно меняющимся динамическим IP провайдера в инете. Порты так же должны быть назначены и прокинуты в роутере как выясняли товарищи выше =)

[Yegor]

но зато не умеет порезать жесткий диск на части, и тем самым избежать бана по железу :)


Такой же узкопрофильный как и ты. Я давно убедился что лучше не говорить то в чем не разбираешься.
В ID железа обычно входит серийник HDD, а не раздела, так что разбивка на разделы ничего не дает.

[SeregaZ]

Такой же узкопрофильный как и ты. Я давно убедился что лучше не говорить то в чем не разбираешься.
В ID железа обычно входит серийник HDD, а не раздела, так что разбивка на разделы ничего не дает.
егорка не шали... баны по железу бывают разные и строятся по алгоритму, который взбредет автору защиты. в моем случае все проверено работает. поэтому лучше не говори то, в чем не разбираешься.

[Yegor]

С таким же успехом можно банить по имени ПК, мак адресу сетевой карты и т.п что легко меняется. Если такое и есть то это бредовый способ вычисления индивидуальности ПК.
Ты говоришь про какой то очень частный случай защиты.

[SeregaZ]

факт что помогает. каждый случай индивидуален и пробовать надо все.

[mira]

у меня нихрена не помогает почти все попсовые способы перепробывал.
чтение адаптера / ХДД / имени пользователя / хардверных данных в реестре

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[SeregaZ]

спровоцируй :) мы хулиганили - на корявой фришке рассылая сообщения во френды, не будучи во френде, причем гму, который был онлайн гыгыгы

ах да! для чистоты эксперимента хорошо бы иметь 2 компьютера. с двумя попроще догадаться в чем собака порылась. типа менять комплектующие одну за одним и вычислять кто иуда :) оууааа конечно, предварительно вычислив, что дело не в винде :)

[mira]

спровоцируй :) мы хулиганили - на корявой фришке рассылая сообщения во френды, не будучи во френде, причем гму, который был онлайн гыгыгы

ах да! для чистоты эксперимента хорошо бы иметь 2 компьютера. с двумя попроще догадаться в чем собака порылась. типа менять комплектующие одну за одним и вычислять кто иуда :) оууааа конечно, предварительно вычислив, что дело не в винде :)

у нас не банят хвид вроде. туппо акк и пох. хвидами ограничения всякие задаютса типа олимпиады (аля апдейт от сср)

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